POTM #2

February 2015: Frostwolf Ghostpup
This month’s pet is one that I’ve been relying heavily upon to deal with all of the AoE spam in the current meta, the Frostwolf Ghostpup. It’s the middle move that makes this pet so interesting, where there’s a choice between Refuge and Haunting Song. Refuge gives the Frostwolf Ghostpup and any critter allies a block, while Haunting Song is a very powerful AoE heal. I always use Scratch and Ghostly Bite, but perhaps someone will find a good use for Sneak Attack or Frolick. What will your team be?

frotwolfghostpup

Here’s a quick run down of the rules:

Each participant will submit one team that includes the pet of the month. I will play each submitted team an equal number of times. Each win will be worth ten points, each draw will be worth five points. Each pet on a submitted team that is not on either of the top or high tier list will be worth ten extra points. Each pet on a submitted team that is not on the top tier list (but on the high tier list) will be worth five extra points. No extra points are awarded for the pet of the week itself.

These extra points are called “team points”.

Here is the tier list: Top & High Tier List

If you need more explanation about team points you can see examples here: POTW #2

The winner will receive a Blizzard store pet of their choice!

Oh, get your teams in quick since I plan on continuing to use the Frostwolf Ghostpup regularly. I wouldn’t want to snipe your team like I did from Wamp last month. :)

So how did all of last month’s Son Of Sethe teams do?

The Undying
P/S Son of Sethe (Plaqued Blood, Touch of the Animus, Drain Blood)
P/P Golden Dawn Feather (Quills, Sunlight, Love Potion)
P/S Crazy Carrot (Ironbark, Aged Yolk, Blistering Cold)

Score: 45 (2-1-4, 20 team points)
W: Unborn Val’kyr, Chrominius, Fel Flame
L: Emerald Proto-Whelp, Xu-Fu, Servant Of Demidos
L: Scourged Whelpling, Mechanical Pandaren Dragonling, Nexus Whelpling
L: Crystal Spider, Garden Frog, Eternal Strider (44 rounds, yuck)
D: Lil’ Bling, Fossilized Hatchling, Wild Golden Hatchling
W: Pandaren Water Spirit, Unborn Val’kyr, Iron Starlette
L: Alpine Foxling, Kun-Lai Runt, Nether Fairie Dragon
undying

It obviously didn’t help this team win a lot, but Touch Of The Animus and Blistering Cold together added up to hilarious heals. I couldn’t get this to work in sunlight too often. Honestly I’m pretty bad at sunlight teams.

Hunting Dots
P/S Son of Sethe (Plagued Blood, Touch of the Animus, Drain Blood)
H/S Tiny Bog Beast (Clobber, Lash,P oison Lash)
P/S Zandalari Anklerender (Hunting Party, Primal Cry, Black Claw)

Score: 50 (3-4, 20 team points)
L: Jademist Dancer, Spring Rabbit, Brilliant Kaliri (had to use raptor against dancer)
W: Anubisath Idol, Clockwork Gnome, Onyxian Whelpling
L: Silky Moth, Grey Moth, Grey Moth (crit loss)
L: Silky Moth, Infected Squirrel, Pandaren Water Spirit
W: Droplet Of Y’Shaarj, Scourged Whelpling, Spirit Crab
W: Iron Starlette, Chrominius, Lost Of Lordaeron
L: Stonegrinder, Snarly, Infested Bear Cub

hunting dotsThere were too many times when I just couldn’t deal with the extremely low health of the raptor. You can chalk that up to my own inexperience with the raptors. The last battle I could have won if I had played it smart, but I had a total brain fart and stayed in for a bleeding Maul. That’s funny because this is my own team. Speaking of that, I face my own teams way too much now. Someone on my meta thinks the point of this blog is for me to make teams for them to copy. It’s really my hope that people can use the examples and guide to start creating their own teams. Now that you have a few wins under belt make your own damn teams! I had to get that off of my chest lol.

Moonshine
P/S Son of Sethe (Plagued Blood, Touch of the Animus, Drain Blood)
S/S Nether Faerie Dragon (Arcane Blast, Evanescence, Moonfire)
S/S Sporeling Sprout (Jab, Creeping Fungus, Crouch)

Score: 50 (3-4, 20 team points)
W: Anubisath Idol, Unborn Val’kyr, Chrominius
L: Unborn Val’kyr, Anubisath Idol, Kun-Lai Runt (1v1 vs. valk at end, 2 crits in a row)
L: Unborn Val’kyr, Unborn Val’kyr, Infected Squirrel
W: Axebeak Hatchling, Emperor Crab, Netherwhelp
L: Lil’ Deathwing, Fel Flame, Dark Phoenix Hatchling (back to back darkness misses)
L: Weebomination, Lil’ Ragnaros, Lil XT
W: Waterfly, Corefire Imp, Iron Starlette

moonshineThis team was definitely on the wrong side of rng. In two of the battles highly unlikely back to back crits and then misses were the sole cause of the loss. I’ve thought about adding a strength of schedule modifier to the scoring but I’m trying to keep it as simple as possible. If I had, Moonshine would have benefitted from it by facing all of those valks and idols.

Bullfeathers
S/B Firewing (Alpha Strike, Sunlight, Murder)
S/S Cogblade Raptor (Batter, Screech, Exposed Wounds)
P/S Son of Sethe (Plagued Blood, Touch of the Animus, Drain Blood)

Score: 55 (3-1-3, 20 team points)
bullfeathersW: Clockwork Gnome, Emerald Proto-Whelp, Arcane Eye
L: Clockwork Gnome, Fel Flame, Wolpertinger
W: Golden Dawnfeather, Disgusting Oozeling, Iron Starlette
W: Ghostly Skull, Blighthawk, Kun-Lai Runt
L: Stunted Direhorn, Fossilized Hatchling, Servant Of Demidos
D: Disgusting Oozeling, Fel Flame, Garden Frog
L: Lil’ Bling, Kun-Lai Runt, Chrominius

I’m not very good at Sunlight teams. Someone else might do better with this team but I couldn’t seem to get a good flow with it.

More Spores
P/S Son of Sethe (Plagued Blood, Touch of the Animus, Lift-off)
P/S Sentinel’s Companion (Peck, Soulrush, Moonfire)
P/P Sporeling Sprout (Charge, Creeping Fungus, Crouch)

Score: 65 (4-1-2, 20 team points)
W: Clock Em’, Harpy Youngling, Mud Jumper
L: Iron Starlette, Iron Starlette, Xu-Fu
D: Clockwork Gnome, Lil’ Bad Wolf, Onyxian Whelpling
W: Fossilized Hatchling, Wild Jade Hatchling, Lil XT
W: Tiny Snowman, Clockwork Gnome, Zandalari Toenibbler
L: Nexus Whelpling, Warbot, Lil’ XT
W: Anubisath Idol, Chrominius, Pandaren Water Spirit

I found myself really wishing for Jab rather than Charge since I needed the damage more than the priority most of the time. Soulrush stun procs can really turn a battle around.
morespores

This month seven battles wasn’t enough to separate the two winning teams. Yes, there was a tie for first place! Congratulations to both Wiff and Wamp for these teams:

Torturer’s Tools submitted by Wiff
P/P Netherspace Abyssal (Immolate, Immolation, Nether Gate)
P/S Son of Sethe (Plagued Blood, Touch of the Animus, Drain Blood)
S/S Ore Eater (Acid Touch, Shell Armor, Body Slam)

Score: 90 (7-0, 20 team points)
W: Death Adder Hatchling, Weebomination, Molten Corgi
W: Scourged Whelpling, Terrible Turnip, Eternal Strider
W: Arctic Hare, Lil’ Ragnaros, Mechanical Pandaren Dragonling
W: Death Adder Hatchling, Death Adder Hatchling, Death Adder Hatchling
W: Unborn Val’kyr, Darkmoon Tonk, Murkalot
W: Dandelion Frolicker, Feline Familiar, Ikky
W: Oily Slimeling, Stunted Direhorn, Lil’ Tarecgosa

torturetoolsWhile Touch Of The Animus is a good move in general, it turns into a great move when paired with unavoidable damage, like field effects or back line Immolation ticks. The Ore Eater also received some awesome heals from the Son Of Sethe’s moves. Combine this with the incredibly strong Shell Armor on the Ore Eater and you have a team that couldn’t be taken down, at least not in seven battles. I was worried that the Netherspace Abyssal’s slow speed would give me trouble, but it wasn’t as much of an issue as I thought. A fun team to play (and win with)!

Alternate Sethe submitted by Wamp
H/P Fel Flame (Flame Breath, Scorched Earth, Conflagrate)
P/S Son of Sethe (Plagued Blood, Touch of the Animus, Drain Blood)
H/P Teroclaw Hatchling (Alpha Strike, Hawk Eye, Nature’s Ward)

W: Lost Of Lordaeron, Undercity Cockroach, Tirisfal Batling
W: Anubisath Idol, Viscidus Globule, Fel Flame
W: Lost Of Lordaeron, Anodized Robo Cub, Crimson Shale Hatchling
W: Lost Of Lordaeron, Harbinger Of Flame, Servant Of Demidos
W: Unborn Val’kyr, Stitched Pup, Arctic Hare
W: Lost Of Lordaeron, Chrominius, Dread Hatchling
W: Sen’Jin Fetish, Vengeful Porcupette, Spineclaw Crab

Just like I mentioned above it’s unavoidable damage that makes Touch Of The Animus so insanely good. In this case it was scorched earth that gave the Fel Flame the amazing heals. I wished that I had Dodge instead of Hawk Eye on a few occasions, but obviously that didn’t lead to a loss. Nice work!
alternate sethe

Wiff and Wamp please email me at discodoggywow@gmail.com with the store pet that you want. I’ll email you the confirmation code.

Thanks for everyone’s teams! I had a really fun time and got some experience playing some pets and strategies that I normally wouldn’t have played. I look forward to seeing all of the Frostwolf Ghostpup teams.

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25 Responses to POTM #2

  1. Vek says:

    Congratulations to the winners, well done.

    I don’t really fancy the Raptors myself, just wanted to take a risk. After thinking about it I would have like to included Ikky instead, but I don’t think it would really matter that much.

    Metal Speed
    Frostwolf Ghostpup(Scratch, Haunting Song, Ghostly Bite)
    Lifelike Mechanical Frostboar(Missile, Rebuild, Decoy)
    Iron Starlette(Wind-Up, Powerball, Supercharge)

    Plan is to start to Wind-Up and Powerball with the Starlette, then the others are mainly there to support the Starlette with Haunting Song and Rebuild. Deocy as the only defense(well the healing too) might be tough, and if running into lots of elementals it might spell trouble.

  2. Wamp says:

    Wow, my first win on a contest! :)
    Grats to Wiff too.

    Thank you Disco for steeling my first team 😉

    I wasn’t sure between Hawk Eye and Dodge, but I thought that it was better crits than dodge because the heals would keep the racial up.

    I am going to prepare my new team

  3. Celya says:

    Wow, exciting finish, grats to both the winners!

    “I had a really fun time and got some experience playing some pets and strategies that I normally wouldn’t have played”

    I have to say, after playing my own team a bit (and I switched out Charge for Jab pretty early), I find myself using the Son of Sethe more often than I initially thought I would, so that sentiment goes both ways.

    I really want to try out my next team before I post it, could we have some sort of “enter by” date? I literally just finished levelling my Frostwolf Ghostpup over the weekend, so I haven’t played with it at all yet.

  4. Liwei says:

    Your experience with my team sounds like how I feel half my pet battles go – crazy strings of terrible RNG. That and fighting against so many idols and valks!

    Ghostpup is a good pet. I’ll have to see what I can come up with later.

  5. Celya says:

    Ok nevermind all that, I came up with a team anyway. And by “came up”, I really mean “I saw someone else doing something similar over the weekend but since they didn’t use a Frostwolf Ghostpup at all I’m calling it my team”.

    Clonestorm
    P/P Frostwolf Ghostpup (Scratch, Haunting Song, Ghostly Bite)
    P/B Royal Peacock (Savage Talon, Arcane Storm, Rain Dance)
    [I have a P/S, I want a H/P] Blighthawk (Infected Claw, Ghostly Bite, Cyclone)

    The obvious ploy being the Cyclone-Rain Dance combo for some backline damage to the other guy’s pets, the Haunting Song to heal back your own backline damage, and two pets with Ghostly Bite which won’t stun if you have your own weather effect up. Lots of hard hits here, and it’s always nice to be able to change your opponent’s weather if you want to.

    I think a critter on the opposing team would worry me. I’m lazy when it comes to swapping out a lot. Not a lot of attack variety here.

    I feel less dirty about using clonedance now than I used to.

  6. Bullfeathers says:

    Hey, I didn’t come in last. Not bad for being new.

    Hoping this will do better. It’s already doing way, way better for me. This will be very annoying, very soon, I reckon.

    P/P Frostwolf Ghostpup: Scratch, Refuge, Ghostly Bite
    S/S Frostfur Rat: Sneak Attack, Refuge, Call Darkness
    S/S Frostfur Rat: Sneak Attack, Refuge, Call Darkness

    Start out with the pup, refuge, bite, and begin the switchstravaganza. This eats undead AoE. It’s dealt with several idols so far. Often the entire team lives.

  7. Wamp says:

    Ok, here is my team

    Rewining try
    P/P Frostwolf Ghostpup: Scratch, Refuge, Ghostly Bite
    S/S Frostfur Rat: Sneak Attack, Refuge, Call of Darkness
    H/P Axebeak Hatchling: Slicing Wind, Rain Dance, Nocturnal Strike

    My first idea was use Sneak Attack on the Ghost puppy, but I need a lot of pet change to get benefit of the Call of Darkness. Instead I decide to use Scratch. So, start with the FG, refuge, Scratch spam and Ghostly Bite on the undead round. Then comes the rat, call of darness, sneak attack spam, refuge to avoid damage. Finally the hatchling can benefit the call of darknes or use Rain Dance to heal and put 100% on the call of darkness. And slicing wind spam.

    S/S is my rat, but I think H/P or P/P could be better. H/P is my Axebeak, P/P could be fine too, but I think H/P could be the best breed.

    Another store pet? Who knows 😉

  8. Aeth says:

    Long time listener, first time caller.

    My team submission is dependent on you getting the new Love is in the Air pet, Lovebird Hatchling. If life gets too busy and you’re not able to pick it up or if you do get it but don’t have enough time to try the team out by the end of the month you can skip my team.

    P/P Frostwolf Ghostpup (Scratch, Refuge, Ghostly Bite)
    S/S Lovebird Hatchling (Alpha Strike, Lovestruck, Pheromones)
    H/P Trunks (Smash, Ethereal, Avalanche)

    Refuge works for two of the pets, you have an avoidance move on Trunks, a stun on the bird, and a little AOE on 2/3 of the team.

    Good luck and I look forward to seeing how my team plays!

    • Discodoggy says:

      Welcome! Even if I don’t get my own Lovebird Hatchling I should be able to buy one. I didn’t know it has Pheromones, it seems like an interesting pet and I’m looking forward to trying it out.

  9. Bullfeathers says:

    Regarding your thoughts about implementing a strength of schedule adjustment, that’s really what tying team points to the Top & High Tier list ends up working out to. Maybe adding a Z-List section, with bad pets that get even more bonus points would help account for someone finding the soulmate for Twilight Fiendling or something, but anything more complicated would be a nightmare for you to manage.

  10. undeadpetsop says:

    Well seems like my team didn’t serve you very well, anyway grats to both winners.
    I’ll try something more “funny” this time. If you don’t want to waste your time on this team disco, just skip it. :)

    May the RNG be with you

    H/S Filthling (Absorb, Stench, Corrosion)
    P/P Frostwolf Ghostpup (Scratch, Haunting Song, Frolick)
    S/S Dandelion Frolicker (Bite, Frolick, Kick)

    Apply the dodge buffs and start praying that the rng is in your favor. Use Haunting Song for a strong group-heal and frolick on cooldown in combination with stench. (=75% dodge chance)
    Anyway just don’t take this one to serious, it’s just a gimmicky team which will most not very effectiv (I assume this.)

    • undeadpetsop says:

      You could also use Lil’Leftovers instead of the Filthling. It has a debuff/ buff removal and it has slightly more style than the Filthling.

      H/H Lil’Leftovers (Absorb, Stench, High Fiber)

      * too
      ** [most] likely … –> my phone is failing me again

  11. Wiff says:

    The Ore Eater doesn’t heal as crazy as the Hopling does off the debuffs, but with mad shielding it really doesn’t need more than a light touch. Glad to see that S/S worked out; I had thought the lack of power would become a problem though it seems that your meta isn’t as AoE infested as mine.

    I think it’s a good call to avoid Sneak Attack on the pup even with Darkness. It’s one thing to utilize a CD like Nocturnal Strike, but it’s quite harder to maximize a weather-dependent primary. Not to mention elementals would become even more vexing especially as many of the popular ones such as Fel Flame, Jademist Dancer, and Pandaren Water Spirit use damage that is unmitigated by the Frostfur.

  12. Liwei says:

    Duck and Weave

    Frostwolf Ghostpup (Scratch, Refuge, Frolick)
    S/S Rabbit (Flurry, Dodge, Burrow)
    Murkalot (Blessed Hammer, Falling Murloc, Shieldstorm)

    My entry for this time around. Unless you’re lacking a Murkalot. In which case I will come up with a different third.

  13. Zero says:

    P/P Frostwolf Ghostpup (Scratch, Haunting Song, Ghostly Bite)
    P/B Royal Peacock (Savage Talon, Arcane Storm, feign Death)
    H/H Ghastly Kid (Diseased bite, Ethereal, Ghostly Bite)

    Simple if you are facing an AOE team, go with the pup first, if don’t, start with the peacock; Arcane Storm->feign Death to the kid-> Ghostly Bite-> Ethereal to avoid damage and wait to GB to refresh-> switch to FWGP-> Haunting Song-> Ghostly Bite spam fest, under arcane winds GG…. You got the idea, This team wins A LOT.
    excuse me about my English. :-)

  14. Discodoggy says:

    Nice teams everyone. So far that’s eight entries, which is more than last month. There’s still time if you’ve been lurking!

  15. Discodoggy says:

    I have some questions about breeds.

    @Vek What breeds do you want me to use? I have each of the 3 pure breeds of mech boar and I have P/P, H/H and P/S Iron Starlette. If you really want an H/P I was thinking about dropping the P/S for an H/P anyways.

    @undeadpetsop Mind if use an H/H Filthling? I’ve been keeping my eye out for for an H/S but haven’t seen one yet.

    @Bullfeathers Mind if replace an S/S rat with a P/P or an H/H? I have one of each for different purposes.

    • Vek says:

      Dammit. I’m not that familiar with the Mech boar, yet. Have just seen it been put to good use against me. 325 Power seems great with more healing from rebuild, but 325 speed makes the decoy alot more useful. But try the P/P.

      Extra Health would have been nice, but with the P/S you won’t need as many turns to gain speed, so try the P/S.

    • undeadpetsop says:

      sure, an H/H version should work. :)

    • Bullfeathers says:

      One of them P/P would probably work well enough.

  16. Tekulve says:

    Hiya

    So here’s a team that’s stacked with 2 fliers but they play well and can withstand a few AoE rounds when facing those teams:

    Thrash or Dash
    Imperial Eagle Chick (p/p)- Thrash/Cyclone/Liftoff
    Stormwing -Quills/Call Lightning/Thunderbolt
    FW Ghostpup – Scratch/ Haunting song/ Ghostly bite

    So the idea is to start with the eagle chick and send out a cyclone..ideally you then switch to get lightning up…

    If not facing aoe, this team lays out heavy DMG and can keep the flying racial and juiced cyclone blasting..gl

  17. Necroshade says:

    S/S Qiraji Guardling (Crush/Sandstorm/Blackout Kick)
    P/P Servant of Demidos (Magic Sword/Siphon Anima/Soulrush)
    P/P Frostwolf Ghostpup (Scratch/Haunting Song/Ghostly Bite)

    This is an anti-AOE team, but besides that, it can counter flying pets and aquatic pets with the servant of demidos and undeads with the ghostpup. In addition to that, every pet has at least a little bit of healing.
    It also offers protection against dots with sandstorm, which is really helpful to keep the fragile servant alive.

    I usually start with the guardlings blackout kick -> sandstorm, after that I either switch to the servant or I keep the guardling in, depending on the opponents active pet. The frostwolf comes in, whenever a heal is needed or whenever the opponent has an undead pet out.

    Have fun :)

    PS: I haven’t found a name for it yet. So if you got a good one in mind, don’t hesitate to name it 😉

  18. Harpua says:

    Probably too late in the month to add mine, but what the heck.

    Going with a theme – Past, present and future.

    Frostwolf Ghost Pup (1,2,2)

    Cogblade Raptor B/B (2,1,1)

    Frostshell Pincher P/P (1,1,2)

    Not going to win many awards, but they are “homegrown”

    • Discodoggy says:

      I don’t think that I’ll be able to play enough to battles to catch up with the other teams by tomorrow, but thanks for the submission nevertheless. The next pet will be announced tomorrow so make sure to get in on that action!

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